Oria Ibn Lopo ibn Musa - Strange name

Thanks for the feedback, Ulf. I did it, and I left the name as is intentionally so that it would get further attention, either by me when I have more time or by one of the other curators who can see at a glance that Oria, being a woman, would not be an "ibn". Incremental progress, my friend.

Okay, feel free to do what you're doing, find this on French wiki, where she's just called Oria bint Musa, another name I found for her was Aurea.

Musa ibn Musa

Descendance
Lubb II ibn Musa (-875)
Ismail ibn Musa (-889)
Mutarrif II ibn Musa (-873)
Fortún II ibn Musa (-874)
Oria bint Musa, mariée à un prince basque García (-859) et mère d'un Musa2. Selon Christian Settipani, García serait un fils de García Galíndez le Mauvais, comte d'Aragon, et Oria et lui auraient pu avoir aussi pour fille Oria (Aurea) épouse de Fortún Garcés3.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_ibn_Musa

Then the thing about not contemporary sources, if they were written 1-200 years after that she supposed to have lived, do you have any proof of that they are false?

One of the few private sites that I found calls her "Aurea Ibn Musa", but yet again, it should have been "Bint" instead of Ibn.
https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/stamboom-jansen/I6761.php

Fortun von Pamplona
830-> 905
Aurea Ibn Musa
835-????

A temporary solution would be to name her; Oria (Aurea) Bint N.N.

Lots of things we "could" do. Better to wait until someone has some time to actually review and evaluate the evidence. I don't mind cutting a fake line when someone has an emergency over it, but I prefer to take time to examine the evidence and detail the profile rather than just slapping in a bunch of other changes. It's already on my list. I'll get there if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Sounds good Justin, because I thought that the only reason for cutting this line was because that someone had exposed it as false, if that proves to not be the case, it might be reestablished, maybe with a note saying "possible or plausible" father"?

No, it truly is false. I was cutting some of the fake lines to Muhammad that I could easily recognize. This was one of them. There are no contemporary sources about her parents, just her own name. The idea she was one of the Banu Qasi is very late, and just a theory based on her name.

I just need to take some time to document all that. Just an hour or maybe two, but it all takes time.

Okay Ulf. I've done about as much cleanup as I planned to do. The name and text should be much better now. We can see if any other information emerges.

Yeah, the surname was just garbage that got merged in later on. I think she should have no parents, and there are no contemporary sources for her parentage. Anything that states otherwise is a modern contrivance to give her legitimaticy.

Justin Durand, bravo on the about section! I just noticed it. Yes, I think given the sources you list, she should be disconnected instead of causing false pathways for people.

Much better, I agree!

Thanks! Now only 7000 more profiles to go ;)