Please do NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree

Two related merges (husband and wife) from 1300's

Francesco Gatto, 1st Baron of Djar il-Bniet

Baroness Sophia Bava

Bernard

This one has conflicts and inconsistencies perhaps due to a recent merge. And the biographical info is in German, for someone fluent in the language.

Ernst III Graf im Sualafeld

https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84962540680

Private User

Ernst II av Bayern, count of Bavaria

Count Ernst von Nordgau, DUP DO NOT MERGE YET

They are one and the same, the father would be
Ernst I, count in Nordgau

and the mother unknown, N.N.

But to merge them requires also to cut off the profile above them.

Thank you, Private User .

I understand what you're saying. But I'm still afraid to change anything, because the dates for Ernst II av Bayern, count of Bavaria and Ernst I, count in Nordgau look vaguely similar (although I may be overlooking other, more important clues);

and the N.N. mother(s) seems a bit of a wild card, just to complicate things a little further.

MedLands does very little to clarify all of the connections for this branch, and I don't see any other good sources for them.

https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_ftnref115

Wikipedia says of this era:

Ducal Bavaria (also known as the "Younger Stem duchy")

Ruled by an array of dukes from an array of rivaling houses, individually appointed to office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monarchs_of_Bavaria

So in my personal opinion for what it's worth, I see this branch as at least 50% speculative and probably riddled with errors.

In order to proceed with your recommendations (which seem sound enough from my standpoint) before merging the two Ernst IIs, one would need to first:

1) remove Gebhard von Nordgau (Agilolfinger) as one of the two attached fathers for Ernst II av Bayern, count of Bavaria

2) remove both parents currently attached to Count Ernst von Nordgau, DUP DO NOT MERGE YET

Debra.
Ernst I is mentioned in Medlands without name for parents or wife, and he is also mentioned as the father to Ernst II. The rest above him is speculations until someone proves othewise with sources, I would begin with that but it requires the ability to cut lines, I do not have that.

I won't touch the parents of the MP'd Ernst I, since they were added by another curator.

However, I did remove Gebhard since that doesn't belong (the real parents of Ernst II are obvious, since they're locked into that MP).

And removed the wonky parents of the duplicate, Count Ernst von Nordgau, DUP DO NOT MERGE YET

Perhaps the best course to proceed now, would be to disconnect that duplicate from the MP wife, Adelheid von Babenberg

and hope that duplicate line will soon be isolated, before someone comes along and merges them again.

Another Ernst II duplicate:

Count Ernst von Nordgau, DUP DO NOT MERGE YET

Aribo has three sets of parents.

Aribo I von Ostmark, Graf im Traungau

all very interesting but:
-dear PRO Private User
the new JPG of Adelheid von Babenberg (828-892) is the wife of *https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_(%C3%96sterreich) a century later
(PLZ don't color the tree randomly:)

-kind user John Raymond Larochelle
PLZ do NOT merge unsourced duplicates into the MEDIEVAL tree: it creates and leaves unnecessary conflicts and inaccuracies..
.. you should know this if you are a member of "Historical Tree Clean Up: Please Park Unsourced DUPLICATES in the Historical Tree Here!"

-(C) plz for solve UNDO https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84962525840
& UNDO https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84926947720
by PRO Paavo Norlamo

duplicate tree resolved and reported already a year ago? -_-

..i. https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84962542940

# Juliana Thomas SOLVED
it was a simple short double copy by the same user..
.. maybe (C) Erica Howton had left the exotic user the chance to complete his low medieval 1500 ascent.

I know the triple conflict is scary, but I preferred to solve it by myself to trill her to come and unravel the mess about aforementioned Babenger under 1000 (for the second time:)

Livio Scremin, I will stop merging profiles. I have corrected profile errors entered by others in the past, so I know how much EXTRA work it involved. I am sorry for the problems I have created.

OK no problem TNX for understand @ John
PLZ points out the large medieval duplications here, especially those in the early high Middle Ages..

usually some (C) expert and willing, marks them off for destruction..
..now we'll have to wait for Erica Howton to return from her skiing holiday in Aspen.. T.T

TNX @ Erica Howton (C) for your holiday break,
ok I'll come to help on the dedicated thread:
-https://www.geni.com/discussions/274176?msg=1674690

but in the meantime here I tell you to:
UNDO also Always same copy -https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=84915400240

just to let the PRO Ronja Johanna Emilia Alaoja merger know the title of this forum too :)

This profile's been added in october and the father is a private....
King William Longsword, I

Duplicate trees:
Alexander Bruce of Earlshall
and
Alexander Bruce of Earlshall

Hello new PRO Leo Franklin Pritzker
welcome but merge Arabic duplicate trees under 1000 created by just new inexperienced users is never a good idea..
but just in general when you find medieval duplications post it here.. (TNX:)

About Skipwith tree..
naa they are not 3 different parents,
only that 2 users have the mother for him,

but since one from 2015 (Alice Skipwith) is not editable (BUG?)
It looks worse than it is..
I'll solve the scary triple parentage thing, but someone check this out genealogically TNX
[since nearby I see conflicts abandoned by (C) on 2015 also on Alice Skipwith ]:

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the part above just unmerged:
new DUP line of Husain al-Athram bin Imaam Hasan as-Sibti unmerged below..

is the DUP tree of :
2007 Husain al-Athram bin Imaam Hasan as-Sibti

everything blanck-empty, everything unsourced, everything without dates, everything compiled in the field...
sorry, that's not the way to make connections under 1000 ^^'