John Goode of Whitby, Immigrant - Pedigree adjustment

I have problems with the whole Goode line from the immigrant generation back to Maria Phillips. First, the immigrant is called of Whitby, they named their plantation that. His birthplace is shown as Cornwall, Whitley, Cornwall. Well, there is NO Whitley, Cornwall that I can find using Google and Google Earth. The only Whitby is in North Yorkshire, where Maria Phillips came from. There may be a paucity of records in Whitby for Phillips, Downe and Goode. There are however a great number of records in Cornwall for a Downe and a Goode family. In 1600 the 250 miles between Whitby and Cornwall was immense, the other side of the world. We need to search for records of those families in Whitby, where he must come from, not Whitley

So I'm trying to think of a strategy for the geni tree until we can sort the possible best records out for a more plausible pedigree, and I'm thinking, perhaps cut the tree where we are certain, and no further. Adding parents would need to be "authorized" as plausible at the very best (by discussion / consensus of managers).

What does everyone think, and where should the cut point be?

I think, personally, all ancestors of John Goode of Whitby should be put in doubt.

I think I agree with you. Let's try one round of emails to managers suggesting we disconnect the tree with "unknown parents" of John Goode, l, ‘the immigrant’ and invite them to submit evidence on this discussion for discussion to change that.

Good idea, I agree.

Erica & William, the Penkevell's are my ancestors, Isabel Penkevell who married Richard Goode is my 13th great-aunt.

I have been doing some research on the Goode family of Whitstone, Cornwall the last few days. I have not been able to confirm any connection with them and John Goode of Whitby, Immigrant.

Richard Goode who married Joan Downe is another questionable link.

The matching marriage license for the 1614 marriage states Richard Goode was from Exeter and Johanna Downe was from Plymouth.

https://archive.org/stream/themarriagelicen00exet#page/40/mode/1up

I'll add some source document's for the Goode family of Whitstone, Cornwall to confirm some of those family members.

Charlene Newport excellent, thank you for this work. I'll give it another day or so for managers to comment on the immigrant's ancestry, but it is not looking likely.

I doubt this is my family. The list of marriage licenses lists on the 20th of May, 1614 a license for Johanna Downe and Richard Good of Exeter. I have a marriage date of the 6 Jun 1614 in Plymouth. I would imagine this is the same union. A license and then 2-3 weeks later the wedding. The visitation of Cornwall records Whitley as the home of Isabell Penkevill's husband., wherever that is.the closest one I could find was Whitley near Reading in Berkshire, some 150 miles away. However there is a suburb of Exeter named Whitestone, not Whitstone. Exeter is in Devon some 35 miles from Plymouth to the NE. That might be of use for all the Goodes from Whitstone. I personally doubt that anyone in my family has to do with or comes from this tree. I simply doubt it.

Trying to get a handle on how many people with the last name Good, Goode were there in England around 1615, I first found the population of England, which was estimated between 3-4 million. Then I found an American city, Chicago with approx. the same population as England back then and searched for the last name Goode. I found there are over 150 people living in Chicago today with the last name Good or Goode. Most likely this Joan Downe/RIchard Good marriage is unrelated to the Penkevills.

Just to chime in: I think the disconnection is warranted.

I also don't have anything connecting my line from John Goode c.1620 back to Whitley. Thanks to all for looking at this.

On further review, I believe the Whitby namesake location in Cornwall is Whitstone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitstone

See this pedigree:
https://books.google.com/books?id=_fwcAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=...

The Goode family of Cornwall were originally yeoman from North Petherwin. Richard Goode who married Isabel Penkevell moved to the parish of Whitstone. One of the family farms was named North Whitleigh.

Yes, Richard Goode who married Joan Downe is probably from a different family.

Here is another dubious link:
Richard Gorde of Roxbury

Walter Goode did have a son named Richard but he died as an infant in 1623.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J39B-W29

His other son John Goode was his heir.

Looking thru the 1800 census for my other relatives the Bracketts in Morgan, Rutherford Co. NC I found a family of Goodes with the favorite first names of our family Thomas, Richard and Robert. Here's the link:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR8F-V1J?i=18&wc=3...

the township of Morgan today has 1500 people, back then I would imagine even fewer.