Friedrich (Drumpf) Trump - Drumpf surname

Started by Mike Stangel on Monday, February 29, 2016
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Does anyone have a source for Drumpf? A spokesperson for Donald Trump claims this article refutes the name (search for "Drumpf"): http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article145558110/Donald-Trum...

This article states that Gwenda Blair’s book “The Trumps: Three Generations That Built An Empire” says the family changed the name at some point during the Thirty Years’ War (1600s).

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2015/09/09/why-donald-trump-bette...

Need to look further, but it might have come from Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump#cite_note-Germangrand...

Not a source by itself either.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3HV2-MS6

I think it should be changed to Trumpf, Mike Stangel

Looks like its listed as Drumpf at familysearch.org too, but that could have been entered by anyone?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3HV2-MS6 : accessed 2016-02-29), entry for Fredrich /Drumpf/.

It looks to me like Friedrich was christened Trump in Kallstadt Germany. So not sure why other papers even said Trumpf.???
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCR1-KFD

Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c) that FamilySearch record is interesting -- the mother's name is the same, but father is listed as "Johann Ii Trump" rather than Christian.

I was trying to figure out that one, too. Could it have been that he was a Jr. and it was II?

So, Mike Stangel, what should we do? I was thinking change to Trump from Drumpf with Aka Trumpf for immigration record? And "About" could mention that the family is believed to be descended from Hans Drumpf?

Hi Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c), unless we have a primary source with "Drumpf" I'd leave that off these more recent profiles. I think the Hans note is fine, since we don't have that line built out. Not sure about Trumpf -- use your judgement. Thanks for looking into this!

According to a snippet view on Geni, Trump himself wrote "She even traced our lineage back to 1608, when a German lawyer named Hanns Drumpf settled in the town of Kallstadt, forty miles west of the Rhine River. According to Blair, one of my ancestors, a winegrower, changed the family name to ..." (Think Like a Billionaire - Page xiii).

He is obviously citing the work of Gwenda Blair:
https://books.google.com/books?id=PmrwtRTQ3fMC&pg=PA26&dq=d...

I wasn't able to find Hanns Drumpf on a quick search, but it appears the name was spelled Trump almost uniformly during the 1700s and 1800s. There are a couple of times it is spelled Trumpf (and of course Trumpin, a feminine form, for some women).

Done, Mike Stangel

This might explain some of the confusion.
http://www.snopes.com/donald-drumpf/

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