Henry II "Curtmantle", king of England - King Henry II

Dennis,
I know that Geni claims that Henry II "Curtmantle", king of England - King Henry II is my 23rd great grandfather but I do not assume that I have his DNA. I need to see scientific proof and I need to hear comment from others whether a claim without DNA proof that "we are the same DNA" might be an illusion. Dennis I invite you to join the project "Geni as Illusion?" and express your opinions about what you accept as proof in one of the discussions there. See http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-as-Illusion/30589

You and King Henry II have the same DNA? or you have the same
DNA as I do?

or a 'significant/similar' piece that needs to be considered? ...

you had your ydna tested?

Henry II hasn't had *his* Y-DNA tested, and considering the anomalous Beaufort/Somerset results, we don't know for certain what it was.

I am not sure how much of him is left to DNA. I remember reading somewhere that his grave was disturbed, not once but twice. The last time during events around the French Rev. The prisoners when they excaped dug him up and threw his bones all over the place and they only had a few pieces of him left.

Why spend the money on a DNA if you can follow the paper trail.

And all of John of Gaunt got burned up in the Great Fire of 1666. It's a bit depressing how few royal remains are available for testing - questions like permission of the current authorities aside.

If remains were found I'm sure it would be worth testing given the uncertainty of much of the paper trail.

Henry II is my 22nd great grandfather. This is a "coincidental" relationship, that is of mixed genders, not father to son to son to son.

Be sure to see the movie, Lion in Winter. It's an old movie that portrays Henry II. It can be downloaded from the internet.

I have seen two versions of it. I liked the one with Katherine Hepburn the best. I think Peter O Tool might have been Henry.

He's my 22th Great Grandfather, via one of lines to him, too

He is my 27th great grandfather, through the royal households of Castile and Portugal. "Lion in Winter" rocks!

I am Illegitimate! Mother told me name of father Elvis Orville Ellis DNA checks out. I am 8th Great grandson of Rowland Ellis of Born in Wales. Quaker in Pennsylvania. Plantagenet records say he is related to HenryII of England.

my 24th great grandfather.

Henry II "Curtmantle" KIng of England
is my 25th great grandfather.

Henry II "Curtmantle", king of England is my 21st great grandfather.

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24th great-grandfather... if my tree is right every step of the way

I find it interesting that we claim a certain number of great grandfather when there are often multiple bloodlines to the same king or queen.

what difference does it make if the bloodline is mixed gender? Geni said King Henry was my 23rd great grandfather and as far as i am concerned that makes me not just a pain in the arse but now i am a ROYAL PAIN IN THE ARSE! joseph lewis in ohio, usa

so if Henry the 2nd was my 23rd great grandfather does that make all of you my cousins?

Yes, we are all distant cousins. You, Joseph t Lewis, you are my 16th cousin once removed. Margaret Cruwys is our shortest bloodline grandmother to each other but she doesn't show up in my shortest bloodline to Henry II and probably not in your shortest bloodline to him. We would be cousins to anyone with direct descent from Henry II. How's it going, cuz?

Different bloodline example... Henry II is my 23rd great grandfather through John I "Lackland" being the son of Henry II and his wife, Eleanor d'Aquitaine, Queen Consort of England. Henry Ii is also my 22nd great grandfather through William "Longespée" Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury and Henry II's parner, Ida de Toëny. Fascinatingly, Ida de Toëny was the wife of Roger Le Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk, Surety of the Magna Carta (my 22nd great grandfather through a completely different bloodline), who was part of the Magna Carta (that limited the "King of England's" power) against John I "Lackland, King of England. Trowbridge is my main "American" bloodline to most kings and queens throughout all of Europe.