Dorothy (Lee) Mackworth - Are these her correct parents?

Parents should be a different Richard Lee & Eleanor Wrottesley.

* http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2475.htm#...
** Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 484.
** Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 92.
** Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 686.

Well, that was quite a difference.

Richard Lee, Esq., of Langley & Eleanor Lee are now in my direct line of ancestry.

Does Elizabeth Watkins belong in this family ?

Thomas was her first marriage - from what I remember that I gleamed.

I wonder if the RENWICK family connects to the Corbet's

https://archive.org/stream/familyofcorbetit02corb#page/n9/mode/2up

Elizabeth More, of Lee

That's is where I am thinking. Worth a look around.

Did you start on page 170? Geo Renwick?

No! I googled RENWICK Shropshire and found this

https://shropshire.gov.uk/news/2011/12/royal-visit-to-school-and-le...

The one in the book his father perhaps?

A descendant most likely = what a break!

It was Warwickshire, Shropshire, England in the book ...

you may like this too:
https://books.google.com/books?id=-CCtbUK7U5wC&pg=PA235&lpg...

Erica Howton - check this out:

Eleanor Lee (born Wrottesley) was born in 1507, Walter Wrottesley and Dorothy Wrottesley (born Sutton).
Walter was born circa 1483, in Wrottesley, Staffordshire, England.
Dorothy was born in 1470, in Dudley, Warwickshire, England.
Eleanor married Richard Lee.
Richard was born circa 1505, in England.Langley near Shrewsbury, Shropshire,
They had 2 children: Humphrey Lee
They had one daughter: Dorothy Mackworth (born Lee).

Eleanor passed away 1595 - had 3 siblings: John Wrottesley , Elizabeth and one other sibling?
Their daughter Dorothy married, Eleanor's sister Elizabeth married Talbot

Look for Eleanor Wrottesley profile here on Geni ?

I think we have Eleanor Wrottesley

Jane More

BTW the relationship finder is currently confused by all the moving around - 5th Cousin / 13th gg. So no one freak out.

Can we find more children & their spouses of Thomas Lee, Esq. J. P

They had drifted off? I finally got Jane More hooked back in. Not sure we got Jacosa "Joyce" Morton spouse / children / in law's? And there's a bunch more girls !

Sorry bad tag

Here's Eleanor Lee

I think we got all her children but not necessarily their spouses & descent. It's all been focused on Sir Humphrey the Bart line.

For reference: the Visitation of Shropshire 1623. Lee of Roden, Nordley, Langley, and Cotton.

We're focusing on the set at Langley

https://archive.org/stream/visitationshrop01grazgoog#page/n47/mode/1up

And alas Dorothy: Dorothy Mackworth

There's your Renwick ma'am :)

Now that was easy enough ... lol

I just found the Morton line in visitations

https://archive.org/stream/visitationshrop01grazgoog#page/n96/mode/1up

Joyce, daughter of Thomas Lee of Langley, married Robert Morton of Houghton.

Son of Richard Morton of Houghton & his 1st wife [sic? 2nd]? Cecily, daughter of William Charlton, whose 2nd wife [or 1st] was Jane, daughter of Robert Corbett.

Can we find Richard Morton & his wives?

Richard was son of Robert Morton, living in 1500

(I think dates might be flawed)

This date: "Eleanor Lee (born Wrottesley) was born in 1507 ..."

She's living in 1590 (named in Richard Lee's will). I'm wondering what that 1507 date is based on, because with an unmarried grand daughter, I would put her closer to 60 than 80.

Her mother has a familiar name ...

Margaret More

Margaret (Cressett) More is Eleanor (Wrottesley) Lee's first cousin once removed.

http://www.geni.com/path/Eleanor-Lee+is+related+to+Margaret-More?fr...

(the More's lead to the Tragic More Children of the "Mayflower" adventure)

*This date: "Eleanor Lee (born Wrottesley) was born in 1507 ..."

There are a few Eleanor Wrottesley's - hopefully they have not been merged. I have her burial as 1595.

So let's see if we can track down a source for a birth date. The burial date of 1595 seems right with a husband dying around 1591.

(a lot of these birth dates may be estimates from older genealogists, and could use tweaking, especially now that Geni has "between" dating functionality).

In looking at the profile notes for Eleanor - timeline

- mother died 1517 (is this right)
- known to have been married by 1559
- father died 1562
- daughter DOROTHY LEE; m. (settlement, 27 July 1566)

So Eleanor was married before about 1546, if she was 20 at marriage a birth date of 1526

I think I saw a marriage date/place - let me look, I will see if I can find her mum's death date too.

https://books.google.com/books?id=7yX3vZeteVwC&lpg=PA32&ots...

The Mackworth Family links with Minshul, Finks and Windsor at Bentley, Worcestershire

https://books.google.com/books?id=7yX3vZeteVwC&lpg=PA32&ots...

Manor of Meole Brace

Political & religious differences among cousins in 1643

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Mackworth_(Parliamentarian)_

Ottley was, by the standards of the time, a cousin of Mackworth, as his uncle had married Mackworth's widowed mother: moreover, Ottley's paternal grandmother was Catherine Mackworth of Betton Strange, so they were also second cousins.[6]

(6) https://archive.org/stream/transactionsofsh07shro#page/n779/mode/2up

I have to go back to my emigrant because I'm getting a slightly different ancestry here

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&am...

Which looks based on a good source, viewable on microfilm

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.a...

Looks like i have all three of the guys mentioned here:

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"Arthur Mackworth, George Cleeve and possibly Michael Mitton, all of whom became great resident landowners in Maine, seated around a table in the Sextry, deep in discussion of their coming adventure." -

Source: The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, By Henry Fritz-Gilbert Waters, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Published by The Society, 1947 - pg 17

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Holy moly! This is awesome ... don't you love the internet? I swear - it makes research so much more interesting. This is good stuff Erica! I am going to get lost in these links - reading for a while and then some.

Getting back to the death dates - I swear I had seen where Walter and Dorothy's death dates were close - as it had caught my attention - yet in going back over the sources, no luck.

I wonder if she had a will or abstract. Have you tried National Archives? There were other papers for the Richard Lee of Langley family; looks like they're held locally in Shrewsbury, but the abstracts are a big help.

Now I am totally curious about what was up with Sir Ferdinando Gorges and Shrewsbury, since he clearly recruited at least two guys (Arthur Mackworth & George Cleeve) from there to come be proprietors in his Maine "they came to fish" adventure.