Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, KG - Children by 1st wife?

His first wife was Kathleen Hastings B 1304 listing as having one daughter Margaret Stafford b 1293 the dates are wrong for mother @ daughter check with manager Scott David Hibbard

Too many can change info on Wikipedia and most others don't have a year of birth for her but do list a daughter and some have two with Katherine Hastings.
https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I6014&...
https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=RA2-PA248&amp...
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=48355991

"Ralph de Stafford, 2nd Baron Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, KG (24 September 1301 – 31 August 1372) was an English nobleman and notable soldier during the Hundred Years War against France." Tonburton Priory, England
Birth: September 24, 1301
Tunbridge, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire, England
Death: August 21, 1372 (70)
Tunbridge Castle, Tunbridge, Staffordshire, England
Son of Edmund de Stafford, 1st Baron Stafford and Margaret Basset De Stafford
Husband of Katherine Hastings and Margaret de Audley, Countess of Stafford
Father of Margaret Stafford; Hugh de Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford; Joan de Stafford, Baroness of Cherleton; Ralph Stafford, II; Elizabeth de Stafford and 5 others; Beatrice de Stafford; Katherine de Stafford; Thomas Stafford; Agnes de Stafford and Maude Stafford « lessThis is the Master Profile for Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford.
Curator Note from Terry Jackson (Switzer) (7/18/2012):
Ralph 1st Earl of Stafford
S/o Edmund 1st Baron Stafford & Margaret Basset
m1 Katherine Hastings
issue
Margaret Stafford
Jane/Joan the elder Beake
m2 Margaret de Audley
Issue
Ralph
Hugh
Elizabeth
Beatrice
Joan
Katherine Ralph de STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Born: 29 Sep 1299 - Tunbridge, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1326 - Stafrford, Staffordshire, England
Died: 31 Aug 1372 - Tunbridge Castle, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Father: Edmund STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Mother: Margaret BASSETT * 1-4-10-12
Other Spouses: Margaret de AUDLEY 1-4-10-12
Wife

Katherine HASTANG *
Born: 1305 - Chebsey, Staffordshire, England
Died: 6 Jul 1336 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Hastings, Katherine HASTANG?
circa 1304
Chebsey, Staffordshire, , England
Death: July 6, 1336 (32)
Stafford, Staffordshire, , England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of John Hastings, Baron of Abergavenny and Eve De Hasting
Wife of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, KG
Mother of Margaret Stafford
Half sister of Laurence Hastings, 1st Earl of Pembroke (4th Creation) and Alice CottonRalph de STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Born: 29 Sep 1299 - Tunbridge, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1326 - Stafrford, Staffordshire, England
Died: 31 Aug 1372 - Tunbridge Castle, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Father: Edmund STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Mother: Margaret BASSETT * 1-4-10-12
Other Spouses: Margaret de AUDLEY 1-4-10-12
Wife

STAFFORD, Margaret de
* #11534, b. circa 1330
* Father Sir Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl Stafford, 2nd Lord Stafford, Seneschal of Aquitaine, Chief Justice of Chester & Flint2,3,4 b. 24 Sep 1301, d. 31 Aug 1372
* Mother Katharine de Hastang2 d. b 6 Jul 1336
* Margaret Stafford was born circa 1330.2 She married Sir John de Stafford, son of Sir William Stafford and Isabella de Stafford, between 1340 and 1341.2,3,4
* Family Sir John de Stafford d. c 1370
* Children
o Sir Humphrey Stafford, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Somersetshire, & Dorsetshire+3 b. c 1343, d. 31 Oct 1413
o Ralph Stafford, Esq., Justice of the Peace for Worcestershire+5,4 b. c 1355, d. 1 Mar 1410
* Citations
* 1.[S3179] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 32; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 85; Wallop Family, p. 715, 717.
* 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 671-672.
* 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 137-138.
* 4.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 236.
* 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 383.
* From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p384.htm#i...
* ____________
* Margaret Stafford1
* F, #213392
* Last Edited=4 Dec 2006
* Margaret Stafford is the daughter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford.1
* Child of Margaret Stafford and Sir John Stafford
o 1.Ralph Stafford+1 d. 1 Mar 1410
* Citations
* 1.[S1916] Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family."
* From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p21340.htm#i213392
* __________
* Ralph de Stafford, 2nd Baron Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, KG (24 September 1301 – 31 August 1372) was an English nobleman and notable soldier during the Hundred Years War against France.
* Ralph was born on 24 September 1301, the son of Edmund de Stafford, 1st Baron Stafford and Margaret Bassett.[1] Having lost his father at the age of seven, Ralph grew up in the midlands with his mother's relatives, including her second husband Thomas Pipe. He had his first experience of royal service, along with his brothers and stepfather, when he joined the retinue of Ralph, 2nd Lord Bassett.[2] ....
* Around 1326, Stafford married his first wife, Katherine Hastang (also known as Katherine Hastings).[1][3] Katherine was the daughter of Sir John de Hastang, Knight, of Chebsey, Staffordshire.[4] Ralph and Katherine had two daughters:
o Margaret, married Sir John of Bramshall (or Wickham) de Stafford, Knight.
o Joan, married Sir Nicholas de Beke, Knight.
* etc.
* From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Stafford,_1st_Earl_of_Stafford
* _______________
* THIS MARGARET IS NOT MARRIED TO SIR JOHN STAFFORD
* Lady Margaret de Stafford
* F, #2093, b. circa 1364, d. 9 June 1396
* Last Edited=27 Jan 2013
* Consanguinity Index=0.44%
* Lady Margaret de Stafford was born circa 1364 at Brancepeth, County Durham, England.1 She was the daughter of Hugh de Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford and Philippa Beauchamp.2,3 She married Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, son of John de Neville, 3rd Lord Neville and Maud de Percy, circa 1382 at Stafford, Staffordshire, England.1 A contract for the marriage of Lady Margaret de Stafford and Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland was signed before 1370.2 She died on 9 June 1396 at Raby Castle, Durham, County Durham, England.2,1 She was buried at Bracepeth, County Durham, England.3
* As a result of her marriage, Lady Margaret de Stafford was styled as Lady Neville on 17 October 1388.
* Children of Lady Margaret de Stafford and Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland
o 1.Lady Maud Neville4 d. Oct 1438
o 2.Lady Philippe Neville+4 d. bt 8 Jul 1453 - 5 Jan 1458
o 3.Lady Elizabeth Neville4
o 4.Lady Margaret Neville+4 d. bt 4 Mar 1464 - 3 Mar 1465
o 5.Lady Anastasia Neville4
o 6.Lady Anne de Neville5
o 7.Lady Alice Neville+4 b. c 1384
o 8.John de Neville, Lord Neville+6 b. b 1387, d. b 20 May 1420
o 9.Ralph de Neville+4 b. c 1392, d. 25 Feb 1458
* Citations
* 1.[S125] Richard Glanville-Brown, online , Richard Glanville-Brown (RR 2, Milton, Ontario, Canada), downloaded 17 August 2005.
* 2.[S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 14. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
* 3.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XII/2, page 547. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
* 4.[S8] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, volume 1, page 15.
* 5.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 152.
* 6.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume IX, page 504.

From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p210.htm#i2093
* THIS MARGARET IS NOT MARRIED TO SIR JOHN STAFFORD
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_de_Stafford
Margaret Stafford MP
Place of Burial: Priory, Tonbridge, Kent, England, UK
Birth: circa 1340
Tunbridge, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Daughter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford and Katherine Hastings
Wife of Sir John de Stafford, of Bramshall
Mother of Sir Humphrey de Stafford, MP and Sir Ralph de Stafford MP
Half sister of Hugh de Stafford, 2nd Earl of Stafford; Joan de Stafford, Baroness of Cherleton; Ralph Stafford, II; Elizabeth de Stafford; Beatrice de Stafford and 4 others; Katherine de Stafford; Thomas Stafford; Agnes de Stafford and Maude StaffordJohn (Sir) de STAFFORD *
Born: Abt 1302 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1342 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Died: Aug 1373 - Amblecote, Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England
Father: William IV de STAFFORD *
Mother: Isabel de STAFFORD *
Other Spouses:
Wife

Margaret de STAFFORD *
Born: 1331 - Tunbridge Castle, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Died: 9 Jun 1396 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Father: Ralph de STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Mother: Katherine HASTANG *
Other Spouses:
Children

1. Margaret de STAFFORD *
Born: 1345 - Wickham, , Norfolk, England
Marr: - John WARREN *
Died: 6 Apr 1418 - Over Peover, , Cheshire, England 2. Humphrey de Stafford
Born: Abt 1348 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1365 - Alice Grenville
Died: 31 Oct 1413 - Amblecote, Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England 3. Ralph de Stafford
Born: Abt 1354 - Grafton, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Marr: 1383 - Maud DE Hastings
Died: 1 Mar 1410 - Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand

de STAFFORD, Sir John
John (Sir) de STAFFORD *
Born: Abt 1302 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1342 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Died: Aug 1373 - Amblecote, Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England
Father: William IV de STAFFORD *
Mother: Isabel de STAFFORD *
Other Spouses:
Wife

Margaret de STAFFORD *
Born: 1331 - Tunbridge Castle, Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Died: 9 Jun 1396 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Father: Ralph de STAFFORD * 1-4-10-12
Mother: Katherine HASTANG *
Other Spouses:
Children

1. Margaret de STAFFORD *
Born: 1345 - Wickham, , Norfolk, England
Marr: - John WARREN *
Died: 6 Apr 1418 - Over Peover, , Cheshire, England 2. Humphrey de Stafford
Born: Abt 1348 - Bramshall, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
Marr: 1365 - Alice Grenville
Died: 31 Oct 1413 - Amblecote, Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England 3. Ralph de Stafford
Born: Abt 1354 - Grafton, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Marr: 1383 - Maud DE Hastings
Died: 1 Mar 1410 - Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand

[I have more info, if needed, on Margaret's descendants & ancestors. I'll chart this line next, & already have it in Tribal Pages.]

I just looked at the Stafford line. Since I have not yet proven my connection to it, I'm not ready to chart it. If anyone needs any part of it, beyond what I have submitted, feel free to ask; as I have done the research.

"Margaret Stafford, MP"??? A WOMAN member of Parliament??? In the 14th century???
I don't think so!

On the other hand, we do find http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/st... and http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/st..., with a mention of their father, who was before the site's records start.

"MP" (Member of Parliament) is not a title that can be acquired through marriage or legal inheritance (though running for your father's seat and winning it, or gaining a seat of your own through political connections, happened fairly often).

And by the way, whoever hacked up a death date of 1410 in "Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand" was toking something pretty heavy. There wasn't anybody there but the Maori, and Europeans didn't even know about the place until the 17th century - and they took a lot longer to get around to trying to settle it (the Maori didn't want any "illegal aliens").

At the time I had collected the information, I was taking anything I could find & wasn't properly vetting it or listing all references. It was before I was seriously into genealogy. So; I simply went to my Tribal Pages Tribal Tree & grabbed what I had put there. Since I haven't been able to confirm the connection to that Holland surname line; & think it may have been the wrong Holland line, I did not research further into those. Thank you, Maven; as I was wondering about the meaning of MP. It's also good to learn that only the indigenous people were in New Zealand up to the 17th century & later. I'm rather interested in the Maori. Sorry about the erroneous information.