Osen, Khan of the Kumans - Back to Russia !!! through Hungry, into Plantagenet ?hainault, Gaunt, Beaufort, Stewart, Gray, Ruthven, Handy & Schwenger

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Osen, Khan of the Kumans
Osen, Khan of the Kumans is your 29th great grandfather.

Interesting lineage...
You
→ Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother → James aka Jim Edward Handy Jr.
her father → James aka Jim (Ruthven) Handy SR.
his father → Marion aka Marrian Ruthven - Handy - Satchell
his mother → Alexander (Thompson) Ruthven
her father → Robert (Wotherspoon) Ruthven, Sr.
his father → John (Henderson) Ruthven
his father → John (Peadie) Ruthven
his father → John (Hutcheson) Ruthven
his father → George (Reid) Ruthven
his father → William Alexander (Clerk) Ruthven
his father → William (Gray) Ruthven
his father → Sir William (Halyburton) Ruthven
his father → William Ruthven, 2nd Lord Ruthven
his father → Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
his mother → Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
her mother → John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
her father → Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
his mother → John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
her father → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
his father → Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England
his mother → Jeanne de Valois
her mother → Marguerite d'Anjou, comtesse d'Anjou et du Maine
her mother → ÁRPÁD(házi) Mária
her mother → KUN Erzsébet of the Kumans, Queen consort of Hungary
her mother → Erzsebet of Galicia, Russian Princess
her mother → Maria Kotjanovna De Polowzes
her mother → Kotian, Khan of the Kumans
her father → N.N. of the Kumans
his father → Aëpa II, Khan of the Kumans
his father → @Osen, Khan of the Kumans
his father

There is a lot of doubt about the parents of the Kuman princess Erzsébet. Her father is doubtful and her mother almost impossible.

See, for example, http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2008-04/...

Osen, Khan of the Kumans is your second great grandfather's wife's first cousin's husband's second great grandfather's wife's 18th great grandfather.

he is my 28th great grandfather, supposedly

I just read in the About section notes:

NEED VERIFICATION OF PLACE IN THIS LINEAGE as far as his being father of Sharukan. Seems from this person back is unverified as ancestors of Sharukan and his descendants. ?

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Which is exactly where I'm at with trying to validate the connections for my tree. I can't find anything documenting Sharukan's parentage. IS there documentation that Osen was his father?

Thanks for any assistance.

"In the same year and month, Vladimir (Monomach) and David and Oleg (Gorislavich) went to AEPA AND THE OTHER AEPA and concluded a peace, and Vladimir took as a bride for Yuri (Dolgoruki), AEPA'S DAUGHTER, OSEN'S GRAND DAUGHTER, and Oleg took as a bride for his son AEPA'S DAUGHTER, GIRGEN'S GRAND DAUGHTER."

Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert care to take a look at this area

Thanks, Jason. The line through Aepa seems documented. It's the connection to his brother

Sharukan

that I posted about, as far as Sharukan being Osen's son.

Justin Durand unfortunately, the link you posted comes up as a 'Dead link.' (Would've been nice to see it, but Ancestry is like that at times.)

Plenty of fantasy on Geni. Wouldn't hurt to do a bit of real research about anything you find here.

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