ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Private User

this person is just hanging out there, I actually have a profile of her already, so if you want to delete this single profile, please do.

Private User,
Geni administration will take care of the profile that is 'just hanging out there'

It's a claimed profile. I don't delete other peoples profiles and I certainly don't delete claimed profiles. It appears the profile has already been reported as abandoned.

There are 6 profiles with almost the same name on Geni but they may all be different people. How can you be sure that you have a duplicate profile?

Private User - Yes, I know - in this case the MyHeritage matches are pretty bad, 26 of them on Robert and Thomas Marsham of Norfolk - but can they be removed? Even though I am now a co-manager, it won't let me remove them.

I have attached a reliable source (from Burke's Commoners), but the other 26 matches listed under Sources need to be removed. Are curators able to do this? Anyone? (BIzarrely, the confirmed matches are listed under Sources on Thomas but not Robert.)

(See my posts on the previous page on this thread.)

Could a curator please merge the two wives of Aaron 'Albert' Zeffertt

One is marked as living and the other is deceased. I don't know whether she has died or not, so please leave her as living.

Thanks
Leanne

Private User
'merge the two wives of Aaron (Zeffert) Zeffertt'
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000012045320562
Done

Captain Isaac Johnson has two duplicates, but I'm not allowed to merge. Any takers? :)

https://ragjaw-hotmail.tinytake.com/sf/NjAyNDQ4XzMwMDQ5MDA

Randi Charlotte Kjærvik

When looking at those duplicates you will notice there are no managers and the profiles are private this was deliberately done by Geni because of a new feature they are working on. When we get the ok we will be able to start merging them.

Could a curator please
* detach Andrus Byrnes from his current parents. He was born in the US in 1825 and his current father was a convict in Australia from 1916 and his mother born in Australia
* detach Francis Byrnes from her current parents. She was born in the US, 15 years after her parents died in Australia
* detach Peter Byrnes from his current parents. Based on the My.heritage records attached onto the account - he is the brother of Andrus Byrnes above
* detach Jane Byrnes from her current parents. Based on the my.heritage records attached to the account - she is the brother of Andrus Byrnes above

Thanks very much.

@Ann Vermeulen (Ramsey) because she is 83 today, my first cousin once removed, and she thought she'd join, but she messed up, because she is already in my tree

OK thanks Angus.

Private User
You should be able to remove the Smart Matches for Thomas Marsham as you are a manager.

Use the Source Tab and click on Thomas Marsham next to the thumbnail, it will open a new window for the Smart Match, then near the bottom of the listing it will have a green check mark saying 'This match was confirmed' click on the 'Undo confirm' to the left. It will then change to have a orange button to Confirm the match, you can then select to reject the match, which is on the same screen.

You will need to do this one at a time until the wrong matches are removed. Only a manager of the profiles can confirm or remove/reject matches. Curator's cannot help with this.

Since you are not a manager of his father Robert Marsham you will need to ask Private to remove the matches or add a duplicate and merge to gain management to do it yourself.

Can someone double check to see if I made a bad merge on the wives only

@Beatrice de Bolbec of @ Osbern d'Arques

Beatrice d'Arques was merged into Beatrice Avelina d'Arques (de Bolbec) by Judith "Judi" Elaine (McKee) Burns - Restoring 114+ yr House. +2 hours ago

here is the conflicting data report
https://www.geni.com/merge/resolve/6000000024422308856

Judith "Judi" Elaine (McKee) Burns I think the merge of the wives was OK, but the area looks quite messy. Osbern has two fathers William, and his mother has two husbands William (or Guillaume, which is just French for William) so together three Williams that probably need to be merged, and then there are also three or four Godfreys (in various spellings) that are probably the same
The Beatrice that you merged has two sets of parents; one pair probably the correct parents, the other pair possibly her parents-in-law
I could not find much of use in Medlands http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc384196781 so reliable sources is what you need first of all

Thanks @Ard van Bergen, yes I know - I found two Osbern d'Arques in my own personal file - part of a GENI gedcom and I think my file has 3 wives plus back then the naming patterns were horrendous

I did not want to make any more merges in the area until I knew if I goofed or not - did not need to compound an error already made if that was the case. =

these are duplicates

@Private
@Robert Hardesty

A question for the curators on naming conventions.

Where a person has a title like Dr, Sir, Lady, Prof etc, where should it be entered?

I have seen where it is entered in the suffix
I have seen where it was entered in the First name field before their name.

When it is entered in the first name field, it has a tendency to throw out sorting (and thus you can visually miss duplicate profiles) ie Dr Peter sorts with the D's but Peter sorts with the P's. This becomes a bigger issue with the more common surnames.

In Master Profiles, it is generally in the first name field - not so much of an issue because master profiles sort at the top anyway. Non master files sort alphabetically

Thanks

Sorry a follow on - I assume that titles like Mr, Mrs shouldn't be entered at all?

another sets of duplicates

@Private
@Rachel Jacobse Verkerk

@Jan Dircksen Hooglandt
@Jan Dircksen Hooglandt

Private User - In case you did not get a response - or if others find themselves in similar situation
re: "because she is 83 today, my first cousin once removed, and she thought she'd join, but she messed up, because she is already in my tree" -
if she is already in your tree, but NOT as a claimed profile - then easiest solution - find out what e-mail she used when signed up/joined geni (probably the one and only one she has - but I never assume that) and then enter that e-mail in the Profile in the currently unclaimed Profile in your Tree.

Geni will then send her an invite and ask if she wants to merge the two versions - (I think in that order) and her saying yes to each leaves everything fixed.

Leanne:

If the 'title' is a significant part of that person's identity, for "contemporary" persons (last 100 years or so), put it in as part of the full name in the Display Name field.

For many profiles of the medieval times, titles are often used in the suffix field to help disambiguate names in an era where "last names" were not at all commonly used.

There are some projects which deal with naming conventions and associated discussions. (so we don't need to continue that here <smile>). Search Projects for "naming conventions" to find a few....

And, yes, Mr., Mrs., etc. should not be used.

speaking of mr ms etc etc I have 4 generations of men in my tree named william.. how do i avoid getting them all confused.. william sr william jr willam sr willam jr etc etc?

You can call them I, II, III, IV, V

Can someone Sanche III Mitarra Sanche, duc de Gascogne as the son of @https://www.geni.com/people/Sanche-I-Garcés-Mitarra/600000000003378...

Private User re: names.

You cannot go wrong entering names using the labels geni provides. So ask yourself: is Sir a first name? Is "Lady" a suffix? Is iV as a suffix the legal name in the source record you are citing?

If not, in my opinion, belongs in AKA or Display name. Display name should be used as sparingly as possible as it makes it difficult to see the "genealogical record."

re names
https://wiki.geni.com/index.php/Naming_Conventions

Thanks for all the help on names, I will read thru the wiki

Could a curator help me with a merge that I completely stuffed up.

William Grono

John GRONO (ie JOHN 1) married Elizabeth BARSTOW
and had (amongst others) - William (WILLIAM 1) and John (JOHN 2)

William 1 married Esther SMALLWORD
and had (amongst others) sons John (JOHN 3) and William (WILLIAM2)

John 2 married Mary BIRKETT
and had (amongst others) sons John (JOHN 4) and William (WILLIAM 3)

William 2 married Frances BOOKS
and had William (WILLIAM 4) and John (JOHN 5)

William 3 married Mary Ann HOBBS

I think I merged William 3 (son of John and Mary BIRKETT) with William 2 (son of William and Esterher SMALLWOOD) - they still have data conflicts.

Now that is probably as clear as mud

Erica Howton thanks I will also check that wiki.

Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. Curator Thanks for that, but it won't allow me to do it, as an unpaid subscriber to MyHeritage. And unfortunately the same goes for being able to contact MyH members to alert them to the problem.

(The profile is currently incorrect again, too - not my fault, but I am trying to get this corrected via PMs before I do anything further.)

Is anyone here a full MyHeritage subscriber? Perhaps (once all problems have been sorted), someone could alert at least one of the managers over there who can then convey the message to others to start untangling all of their profiles. This is a glaring example of how incorrect information gets replicated so many times that everyone starts assuming it's true...

"incorrect information gets replicated so many times that everyone starts assuming it's true..."

It's been going on for hundreds of years, and fast-distribution systems like the Internet only multiplied the problem. (Sometimes the errors are intentional, as in somebody trying to "buff up" their ancestry.)