Roger de Busli, of Teckhill - Died without issue ....

@Roger de Busli, of Teckhill is my 28th grt grandfather he had 5 children Ernald de Busli, Albert De Bussel 3 rd Baron, Warren de Bussedl 1st Baron, Beatrice de Bully,@Warren de Bussel 2nd Baron http://www.geni.com/path/Judy+Rice+is+related+to+Roger+de+Busli+of+... this is my link i would remove Beatrice de Bully Judy Rice

Judy - look at the Wikipedia article here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Busli

It says he had no children & shows evidence.

Hi Erica sometimes we have to make a judgement call so delete part of the tree Judy

(easier said than done ...). :):)

I'm glad you see the problem now and seem to agree it seems unlikely these children belong to these parents.

@Maybe the links are wronghttp://1066.co.nz/library/battle_abbey_roll1/subchap92.htm or it was added wrong by Myrna Huthmacher and she knows the correct parents of the children Judy Rice

http://www.mylesstandish.org/html/roger_de_busli.html

This reference would have Roger having a son Roger but also state that he died without issue thus ending this line.

http://en.cyclopaedia.net/wiki/Roger-de-Busli

It would appear that the son Roger died as an infant. There is also some conjecture that Beatrix might have been a daughter or more probably a sister and married William de Eu.

The male line of the de Busli family ran out in 1213 with the death of John Busli, Constable of Scarborourgh Castle. The de Busli family holdings passed into the family of Vipont through the marriage of Idonea de Busli (John's only child) with Robert de Vipont (Vieuxpont).

Because of the above information I would also question the addition of Gerbert, seigneur de Builli as a brother to Idonea.

http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p705.htm#i...

So this daughter profile http://www.geni.com/people/Béatrice-de-Builly/6000000003243318183 is correctly married, possibly a daughter of Roger de Busil, more likely sister? Private User maybe you can evaluate?

I'm thinking we need placeholder parents for the 2 brothers, according to Medlands, who have an undefined by "not" parent / child relationship with Roger de Busil & Muriel.

That leaves several more children to re parent -

William de Busli, of Old Warden

Ernald de Busli

Richard Bussell, 2nd Baron of Penwortham

Albert Bussell, 3rd Baron of Penwortham

I'll try to take a look at this tomorrrow. Have an ugly headache today.

It seems that if that information is correct, that all of these children with exception of maybe Beatrice, who could also be his sister instead of daughter. I have Beatrice in my master tree. No sources.
In the souce I listed, above, http://1066.co.nz/library/battle_abbey_roll1/subchap92.htm
it states that ; "Warine Bussel, supposed to have been the son (or brother) of Roger de Busli, was his successor, and ranks as the first Baron of Penwortham." which furthers the mystery of what Wikepedia is saying. We don't really have any definate proof here, only what people are gathering from the few crumbs of records that remain.

Roger de Busli did have children but most died before him, thus, leaving him without an heir. Apparently, Albert, 3rd Baron did live past his father but for some reason not made heir.
These are my ancestors from and beyond the Standish family.

Could I please ask if the potential relationship between Warine Bussel and Roger de Busli was ever resolved or if a consensus was reached? Many thanks.

Many thanks!