Start Project on Jewish Exogamy?

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I'm curious if it would interest anyone to start a project on Jewish exogamy (the politically correct variant of "intermarriage"). I'm curious if it would be of use to add profiles to a project on Jewish exogamy that pinpoints where the Jewish tree intersects with all others.

Thoughts?

(This idea stems from that fact that I just hit upon a goldmine in my family tree by tracing one case of intermarriage some 4 generations ago, and now I must be related to every blue blood in America. :)

Nick - personally - brilliant idea. I am Jewish but my father is not. My cousins enjoy being connected to Charlemagne!

My father was jewish My mothers family are christian she converted to judiaism but she kept allot of her christian teachings as well. I embrace both the alpha and the omega. I think intermarriage is a great thing love is love....

I'm rabbinical families on my father's side and Mayflower on my mother's side. It is a very interesting phenomenon.

Oh and I converted formally, studied in Israel, and converted my kids Orthodox so they wouldn't have my conundrum.

My Grandfather Raymond Joseph Tossas, was son of a Sephardic Rabbi Ramon Mateo Tossas Escalera of Puerto Rico.
Raymond fell in love, at first sight with my Catholic Grandmother of the Captain Correa line, of Puerto Rico.
His father (Ramon) apparently, excommunicated him... but called for him again, before his own death.
We were raised Catholic... but I´ve always, felt the bond to Judea.

unfortunately, there are no records for Jewish folks, in Puerto Rico until the mid 1900´s... as they were cryto jews and on the sly, fearing first Spanish, then, German then, Spanish expulsion/extinction.

Great story Theresa. I think this could be a nice project with each of us telling our stories somehow, but succinctly, to illustrate how wonderfully connected we all are.

For the record, I can now say that Theresa Renee Eléna Delgado Tossas (Tossas Cox adopted: Maculaitis) is my 16th cousin thrice removed. How awesome is that? Couldn't have said that yesterday without tracing this case of intermarriage in my family.
See Ruth Vina Bishop

As far as I know I have no recent intermarriages in my family . . .except for me. My wife's parents are Mormons - her father Swedish and her mother Europen mix. But what is very interesting (to me anyway) is her mother's fathers surname is Lance- changed from Lentz. We can trace these Lentzs to the 1500s to town in the Rhineland near Cologne. My fathers line -Schtengen-Margolioth can be traced to the 1400s to the Rhineland and one respected researcher belives at least at one point to the town of Juellich less than 20 miles from the town the Lentzs lived in. Even more interesting is that I have a DNA match to an as yet unrelated Lentz who traces his family to the Rhineland in the same time period. How is that for a wierd coincidece?

Erica Howton Can you help here since you're one of us too? How can we create a project around these fabulous stories???

Seth Morgulas (Geni Curator) -- great story too! My husband and I could not be more dissimilar in looks and I thought in background but it turns out that his mother's parents come from a town 13 miles from my father's paternal grandparents!

Yes, lovely that is, Nick!!! Great Job tracing!!!

and Seth, THAT does sound fascinating. I am working on three other cases of German Descent, for other cousins, here on GENI... if you´d like, I can add your unrelated Lentz to the list... for translating, records in German, for example and/or my capability of accessing German Google (and being able to read it), as sometimes the search results differ, not only from computer to computer, but from country to country. (I live most of the time, in Germany, although I am American.)

Hatte, yes, I think it´s a grand idea!

Theresa, yes, thank you.

I think this actually would be a fascinating project because it seems like there must have been a lot more intermarrying then is generally accepted. I guess in matters of the heart things can get complicated.

In matters of the heart, almost always! :-)

So my thought on a "Jewish Exogomy" project would be 2 fold:

Personal discussions such as this

And "adding as profiles" to the project these adventurous couples we find.

I will start it, invite everyone posting so far to join as collaborators & if OK with you, copy & paste the stories so far to a dedicated discussion thread in that project.

Tasks are to find

- appropriate images (Valentine's Day with a Jewish star?) for the project media repository

- more scholarly external documents to consult - upload and / or add to the project overview as a link

- I'll also make a "notables" section in the overview as a quick consult / visual aid

What a great day to start this discussion. I will volunteer my parents' photo which is AWESOME. I'm going to post it in a minute.

Richard Jay Rubenstein has a new profile photo -- my parents in St. Louis early in their marriage. A nice contrast :)

And of course there's me and Danny, also as dissimilar in looks as you can get.

Erica has a MASTER PLAN! Trés bien! Bravo and Ey Ey! <3

Hatte, Grand! <3

A nice initiative,

I am puzzling about a brother of my grandmother, Karl Sommer, who had blue eyes and blond hair.

Karl SOMMER

Birth:
January 12, 1895
Kuchenheim, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Death:
circa 1942 (47)
Minsk, Minsk Province, Belarus, Perished in the Shoa

Immediate Family:

Son of Philipp SOMMER and Susanna Sommer
Brother of Berta Bertha Burgele Vyth and Wilhelm (Willi) SOMMER

May be somebody familiar with German geneaology sees some link and can help me further? I do not know who was Philipp's father.
Tsira

I would check with Randy Schoenberg.

http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Exogamy/17224 is up and running. Please join, add profiles, and spread the Word ...

Sounds like a wonderful idea, Nick. I know of quite a few such points in my own tree.

Erica Howton I see that you are related distantly to my wife through -on her side - the above referenced Lance/Lentz family. fun coincidence!

http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Exogamy/17224

Three Project Discussions:

1. http://www.geni.com/discussions/132934
Start Project on Jewish Exogamy?

2. http://www.geni.com/discussions/132972?msg=922940
Major Biblical interconnecting lines?

3. http://www.geni.com/discussions/132964
Do we fit?

Tsipporah Sofer - my answer was to your comment.

Randy Schoenberg is a good place to start to ask about German families and he can point you to others.

Thank you Hatte.
In the meantime I got a very useful tip from Ingrid Meissner.
Due to this I can add a lot of more persons to my Sommer family tree and I already have a question for Randy as a result.

Excellent. We have a German curator as well. I can never remember the exact areas that Randy is an expert in, but I know that on Geni there are quite a few people doing German - Austro-Hungarian - Czech Jewish genealogy. My own knowledge is further east than that.

I have several place of inter marriage of jJewish and others in my family lines with other beliefs it hard to figure out if this jewish line was hiding them selves amoung these other lines

Hatte Rubenstein Blejer

Ingrid Meissner although not a curator, has the advantage of being German and speaks the language. Our families intersect and we have worked together as long as I have been on Geni.

Oh Pammy,

you are too late. I already reacted on Zira's message.

Regards
Ingrid

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