Gediminas, didysis kunigaikštis - Gediminas, grand duke of Lithuania - ancestry change ?

Started by Peter Rohel (c) on Thursday, February 13, 2014
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2/13/2014 at 7:37 AM

Gediminas, Grand Duke of Lithuania - use to be on Geni as great-grandson of http://www.geni.com/path/Peter+Rohel+is+related+to+Mindaugas+Mindov...

Revisions Jun 14, 20103 has: Gediminas, didysis kunigaikštis's parents were changed to Pucuwerus Rex Lethowie and (No Name). Neither http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gediminas or http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Lithuania mention Pucuwerus.

Anyone know which Ancestry line belongs to Gediminas ??

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2/13/2014 at 7:49 AM

@Gediminas,didysis kunigaikstis-Gediminas,is my first cousin 19th times removed husbands brothers first wife grandfather my connection is mt first cousin Maud of Lancaster Judy Rice

2/13/2014 at 9:56 AM

Private User - if you wish to show your link to Gediminas - you need to post the "Share path" internet page link - otherwise it just shows his profile.

2/14/2014 at 5:04 AM

Gediminas, didysis kunigaikštis is my 21st great grandfather

2/14/2014 at 5:07 AM

Peter Rohel is my 56th cousin 12 times removed

2/14/2014 at 6:19 AM

Private User - no, when you are on Gediminas profile - on the bottom right of the Path display - is "share this path"

Clicking on the "share this path" link - will open a new web page - and it is that internet link (url) that you need to copy - and paste it here. The url should have a similar format as this one (but your name to Gediminas):

http://www.geni.com/path/Peter+Rohel+is+related+to+Vytautas+Aleksan...

2/14/2014 at 7:22 AM

Private User - no, your url appears to be missing the last number, which is Gediminas profile number.

Unfortunately the display of the url here gets truncated - and thus I had to - right click your url, click on properties to see that your url was incomplete. This is what your complete url should have looked like:
http://www.geni.com/path/Judy+Rice+is+related+to+Gediminas+didysis+...

Private User
2/14/2014 at 7:59 AM

@when i go back to my profile it keeps saying one of the profiles you follow does not exist Judy

2/14/2014 at 8:07 AM

Private User - when you click on the url above that I provided - by adding Gediminas profile number - your path to him should work.
http://www.geni.com/path/Judy+Rice+is+related+to+Gediminas+didysis+...

Perhaps when you copied your path url to him - you missed the last part, his #

Private User
2/14/2014 at 8:45 AM

Judy Rice=Arthur Rice my father=Israel Tekarihoken Rice his father=Pierre Atawenrate Rice his father=Ignace Awennaietha Deer Rice his father=Marie Madeleine Kiatawinon Deer Rice his mother=Thomas ak Atonwa Aronhiowonen his daughter=Silas Rice his father=Edmund Rice his father=Samuel Rice his father=Thomasine Rice (Frost) his mother=Thomasine Frost her mother=Joanna Strutt her mother=Catherine(or Johanna)Strutt her mother=Sir John Scott,High Sheriff of Kent her father=Sybil Scott,Heiress of the Barony of Bircholt his mother=Johanna'Joan' Halsham her mother=Richard Halsham her father=Philippa de Strathbogie his mother=David IV Strabolgi, 13th Earl of Atholl his father=Katherine de Beaumont, 3rd Baroness Audley his mother=Isabel de Beaumont, Duchess of Lancaster his sister=Maud of Lancaster her daughter=Willem 1 van Beieren her husband in the colour red=Ludwig V1:der Romer: von Wittelsback,Herzog zu Bayern,Kurfurst zu Brandenburg His brother in colour red=Kunigunde of Poland,Herzogin zu Bayern, Kurfurstin zu Brandenburg his wife in colour green=Aldona of Lithuania,Queen Consort of Poland her mother in colour green=Gediminas,didysis kunigaikstis her father in colour green this is my lineage Judy Rice

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12/7/2014 at 6:57 PM

Gediminas, Grand Duke of Lithuania is my 23rd great grandfather.

12/8/2014 at 6:54 AM

See also discussion: Wikipea: Narimantas or Narymunt, was the second eldest son of Gediminas
http://www.geni.com/discussions/64416

1/28/2015 at 10:53 AM

Gediminas, Lietuvos didysis kunigaikštis is my second great aunt's first cousin once removed's wife's 14th great grandfather's wife's second great grandfather.

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2/17/2018 at 6:17 PM

Due to the lack of historical sources, as well as the incompleteness of available information, it is impossible to establish the origin of Gediminas for certain. The main question of historiography was the establishment of the degree of kinship of Gediminas in relation to his predecessor, the Grand Duke of Lithuania, Vytenis. (Gediminas it is mentioned as son of Vytenis in 1657 source - attached to profile). In the legendary part of the Lithuanian-Belorussian chronicles and in all pre-scientific historiography, Gediminas is represented as the son of Vytenis. From the end of the 19th century, a point of view was established based on a found letter - from one of the members of the Riga magistrate to Gediminas himself (in which Vytenis was named as "brother and predecessor" of Gediminas), that he was brother of Vytenis and son of the great prince of Lithuania Pukuveras Butvydas.

In the 1970s, Jerzy Okhmansky put forward a version that Gediminas was a descendant of Scolomend. This version is based on the words of the sons of Algirdas, described in the ancient Russian poem "Zadonshchina", whre they claim their origin from Scolomend. Since the poem misses the generation of the Butvydas and Pukuveras princes known from other sources, Okhmansky suggested that Scolomend was the father of Pukuveras and Gediminas' grandfather. According to Stephen Rowell, Scolomend could be Gediminas' father-in-law. In the opinion of Thomas Baranauskas (Lithuanian born historian), Gediminas could have been Vytenis' cousin, and not his brother.

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