The following is part of a conversation that took place in private messages between Private User, Linda Kathleen Thompson, (c), Private User, & Anne Kaufman. It is regarding the correct husband of Bathsheba Washburn and the proper dates for the following profiles:
* Noah Washburn, son of Edward Washburn & Judith Washburn
* Noah Washburn, son of Noah Washburn & Mary Washburn
* Noah Washburn, son of Henry Washburn & Sarah Washburn
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Anne Kaufman
4/21/2013 at 3:46 PM
Hi Linda,
Say, I noticed the link you have to Noah Washburn is considered incorrect. Here is the information that I have and what was accepted by the Mayflower Society. Hope it helps.
Mayflower Society application at Reference 1090 that states that the Noah Washburn who married Bathsheba Sexton was the son of Edward Washburn and Judith Rickard. 1090
Father* Edward Washburn1,2,3 b. s 1698, d. 1759
Mother* Judith Rickard4,2,1 b. 1 Feb 1701/2, d. a 13 Nov 1745
Noah Washburn was baptized 15 June 1740 at Plympton, Plymouth County, Massachusetts (3,2,1,5,6). He married Bathsheba Sexton, daughter of Charles Sexton and Bathsheba Geer, 14 November 1765 at Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut (7). He died 7 August 1811 at Hartford, Connecticut, at age 71 (8,7). He was buried at Old North Cemetery, Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut (8).
http://www.gdcooke.org/SS/default.aspx/page/org2-o/p3239.htm
Citations
1. [S38] Robert Moody Sherman, Verle Delano Vincent, Robert S. Wakefield and Lydia Dow Finlay, Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Descendants of the Pilgrims Who Landed at Plymouth, Mass. December 1620 Volume Fifteen Family of James Chilton and Family of Richard More General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1997), 95. Hereafter cited as MF 15.
2. [S40] Ralph V. Wood Jr., Francis Cooke of the Mayflower, The First Five Generations, (Rockport, Maine: Picton Press, 1996), 263. Hereafter cited as MF 12.
3. [S39] Lee Douglas van Antwerp and Robert S. Wakefield, Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Descendants of the Pilgrims Who Landed at Plymouth, Mass. December 1620: Volume Nine: Family of Francis Eaton General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1996), 40. Hereafter cited as MF 9.
4. [S39] Lee Douglas van Antwerp and Robert S. Wakefield, MF 9, 39-40.
5. [S109] Barbara Lambert Merrick, "Four New-Found Generations of Benjamin Eaton Descendants", Mayflower Descendant Vol 43, No. 1 (Jan 1993).
6. [S298] Anthony Hoskins, "The Washburns of Middletown, Connecticut, and the Children of Joseph and Hannah (Johnson?) Washburn", The American Genealogist Vol 75, No 3 (July 2000): 215-224.
7. [S313] Lucius Barnes Barbour, Families of Early Hartford, Connecticut (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1977), 635-6.
8. [S315] Connecticut, Charles R. Hale Collection of Connecticut Vital Records, Burials: Old North Cemetery, 1803-1932 p.224, FHL microfilm 3339. Hereafter cited as Hale Collection.
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Linda Thompson
4/21/2013, multiple messages
Since there appears to be two different Noahs, It might be easiest if we move Bathsheba over to the Noah born 1740 and cut and paste what you had put in the "about". Then move the daughter Sarah. We can MP both of them with a note that they aren't the same "Noah". What do you think.....
Your source http://www.gdcooke.org/SS/default.aspx/page/org2-o/p3239.htm
looks very well documented. I think we should use it.
Jeff can pipe in if he thinks any of this is wrong.
Does this look right now Anne?
http://www.geni.com/path/John+Washbourne+VII+is+related+to+Anne+Kau...
I see why there is confusion on this. However, this doesn't list his parents.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=washb...;...;
This doesn't list the children of Edward and Judith (Rickard) Washburn.
http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/cooke/d43.htm#P1813
This is VERY confusing!! Both Noah aren't likely to have married Bathsheba Saxton!
http://home.earthlink.net/~washburnmaltby2/washburn_plymouth_26.htm...
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Jeff Gentes
4/22/2013 at 9:50 AM
According to FindAGrave, the Noah Washburn that is buried in Old North Cemetery in Hartford, and the husband of Bathsheba Saxton died Aug. 7, 1814. We currently have her married to the Noah that supposedly died Aug 7, 1811. Wish we had a picture of the site.
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Linda Thompson
4/21/2013 at 9:48 PM
The more I look at this the more it looks like Bathsheba might be the daughter-in-law of Noah Washburn and Mary Staples. The evidence seems to lean stronger in that direction.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=j......
One of the things that make me lean toward Noah and Mary is Hartford Connecticut. Edward and his wife are from Massachusetts.....
Should I change it back?I think I know what David will say......
http://genforum.genealogy.com/staples/messages/1869.html
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Anne Kaufman
4/25/2013 at 11:10 PM
There are three Noah Washburns born around the same time. They are:
1. Noah WASHBURN
Event(s)
Birth: 1740
Christening: 15 June 1740
Plymouth, Plymouth, Ma
Parents
Father: Edward WASHBURN
Mother: Judith RICKARD
2. Noah WASHBURN
Event(s)
Birth: 9 Sep 1741
Bridgewater, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Parents
Father: Noah WASHBURN
Mother: Mary STAPLES
3. Noah WASHBURN
Event(s)
Birth: 1 Feb 1744
Bridgewater, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Parents
Father: Henry WASHBURN
Mother: Sarah [BATTLES]
http://www.gdcooke.org/ss/default.aspx/page/org2-o/p3239.htm
Gregory Cooke has the best analysis of which one married Bathsheba Sexton.
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Jeff Gentes
4/26/2013 at 3:58 PM
Ok, so based on Gregory Cooke the 7 Aug 1814 date is an error published by Barbour (Families of Early Hartford:635), with many sources supporting the year 1811. He also comes to the conclusion that the Noah that married Bathsheba was the son of Edward Washburn and Judith Rickard. His analysis makes sense to me and at current time represents the best argument. I've restored Bathsheba to this Noah and added the additional children listed in the source.
I plan to take this private discussion and place it into the public discussion associated with those profiles, so anyone else can follow what we did if that is ok with everyone. Linda, we'll need to update the curator notes. I'd do it, but it would switch the curator status to me. I created the profile for the third Noah Washburn, son of Henry & Sarah and MP'd it.
Another question on a set of Washburns. Who is the correct husband of Bethiah Washburn (Kingman).
* Captain Benjamin Washburn, son of Sgt. Samuel Washburn & Deborah Washburn
* Benjamin Washburn, son of Joseph Washburn & Hannah Washburn
1-Noah 1 WASHBURN
b: 11 July 1682, Bridgewater, MA
d: 17 October 1716, Bridgewater, MA
+Elizabeth SHAW
b: 26 September 1687, Weymouth, Norfolk, MA
m: 25 January 1710, Bridgewater, MA
. . . . 2-Noah 2 WASHBURN
b: 18 July 1716, Bridgewater, MA
. . . . +Mary STAPLES
b: 18 July 1718, Bridgewater , Plymouth Co., MA
m: 18 January 1739, West Bridgewater, MA
d: 1756, Williamsburgh, Norfolk, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Elizabeth 2 WASHBURN
b: 3 October 1739, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Noah 3 WASHBURN
b: 19 June 1740, Bridgewater, MA
d: 7 August 1814, Old North, CT
. . . . . . . . 3-Nehemiah WASHBURN
b: 1 January 1743, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Stephen WASHBURN
b: 26 May 1748, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Hulda WASHBURN
b: 6 July 1750, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Mary 3 WASHBURN
b: 6 January 1756, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . 2-Eleazar WASHBURN
. . . . +Anna ALDEN
m:
One part did not show up Mk 1 Mod2
1-Noah 1 WASHBURN
b: 11 July 1682, Bridgewater, MA
d: 17 October 1716, Bridgewater, MA
+Elizabeth SHAW
b: 26 September 1687, Weymouth, Norfolk, MA
m: 25 January 1710, Bridgewater, MA
. . . . 2-Noah 2 WASHBURN
b: 18 July 1716, Bridgewater, MA
. . . . +Mary STAPLES
b: 18 July 1718, Bridgewater , Plymouth Co., MA
m: 18 January 1739, West Bridgewater, MA
d: 1756, Williamsburgh, Norfolk, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Elizabeth 2 WASHBURN
b: 3 October 1739, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Noah 3 WASHBURN
b: 19 June 1740, Bridgewater, MA
d: 7 August 1814, Old North, CT
. . . . . . . . +Bathsheba SAXTON
b: 17/26 Sep 1741, Hartford, Enfield Co., CT
m: 14 November 1765, Massachsetts
d: 25 July 1828, Old North, CT
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Noah 4 WASHBURN
b: 26 September 1766, Hartford, CT
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Eleazer WASHBURN
b: 9 November 1768
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Sarah WASHBURN
b: 5 December 1770
d: 13 July 1818
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-John 5 WASHBURN
b: 25 December 1772, Hartford, CT
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Hannah WASHBURN
b: 27 November 1774
d: 19 January 1858, Troy, NY
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Abigail WASHBURN
b: 10 December 1776, Hartford, CT
d: 21 January 1805, Worthington, MA
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Charles WASHBURN
b: 5 October 1779
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Hepzibah WASHBURN
b: 1 February 1782
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Rebecca WASHBURN
b: 7 March 1783
d: 28 May 1857
. . . . . . . . 3-Nehemiah WASHBURN
b: 1 January 1743, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Stephen WASHBURN
b: 26 May 1748, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . +Sarah FAXON
m:
. . . . . . . . 3-Hulda WASHBURN
b: 6 July 1750, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . . . . . 3-Mary 3 WASHBURN
b: 6 January 1756, East Bridgewater, MA
. . . . 2-Eleazar WASHBURN
. . . . +Anna ALDEN